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Darfur, Congo, Burma: is ‘good will’ enough?


By Sama Team | October 20, 2009


Yesterday, Max Dana posted on her blog a long article titled: Darfur, Congo, Burma: is 'good will' enough? All the Sama Team felt very concerned by the subject, we discussed a lot about it since yesturday so we decided to post this entire article on the Sama Gazette. If you are a regular reader of the Gazette, you know we usually don't post anything directly connected to Max Dana (it's an internal policy, we stay independent from our creator!), but this time we really thought we should make an exception.

Read and you will understand...

 


 

"The plights in Darfur, Congo and Burma are different on many aspects but the initiatives launched by organizations (human rights, humanitarian, etc) all have the same goal: help the people living in danger and provide them assistance when needed. As you may already know, I truly think Tall oaks from little acorns grow, nevertheless I’m not naive and I know the hard work and the perseverance of people of good will offer a glimmer of hope, although the changes take at least years, decades or even centuries to be seen. On the other hand, like I said in Darfur: a World Wide Role Playing Game, willing to do the good is not always paying. It seems like without having to spell things out, activists and volunteers are sometimes overtaken by the events and they hardly hide their growing weariness and tiredness for the situation behind their facade of optimism. They hope and pray for the conflict to end (like in Darfur, Congo, Guinea…). Not very reassuring when those organizations are supposed to be the powerhouse. A long-term perspective is maybe what our view of the situation lacks, because only a global approach taking into consideration economic, ethnic and historical contradictions of the concerned region is a key prerequisite for a balanced and durable peace. This is not new, one may say this is obviously an evidence. It sure is, but then how do we get there? That is when we can ask ourselves: is good will enough? And honestly, maybe not…

I was aware of the situation in Darfur in late 2004, and I was surprised we couldn’t find any information about it, excepted on very specific websites and newspapers, clearly not aimed to be read by a wide audience. Most of the people I know only discovered the crisis in Darfur in late 2006 early 2007 when George Clooney came back from Sudan; Darfur finally came under the spotlight, everybody heard about the atrocities soon to be qualified as genocide. The same happened for environment: many people really got scared about environmental issues only after they watched Al Gore’s documentary: ‘An Inconvenient Truth’. So here we are, aware. While some organizations are already working in the field, the goal of some others is to bring attention and raise awareness among the public opinion about these situations. I think it is important we do not think because a war or a genocide or a catastrophic event is not on the front page anymore, it’s because everything is back to normal. On the contrary I may say. In News cycle turnover, our today’s worst enemy?I questioned the fact that every day seems to bring a new round of bad news, punctuated by good news getting quickly lost within a continuous flow of information. Selecting and prioritizing the information has become an arduous task and because of the law of supply and demand, it complexifies our relationship with the important events and issues for which are often missing the necessary details. News are now consumer goods, with an expiration date and this can give the events a misleading twist because we can’t simplify a given situation the same way we leave out parameters to simplify the form of an equation in mathematics.

Back to ‘good will’. There is an expression: ‘The road to hell is paved with good intentions’ and even if I don’t use it very often, it’s a fact that willing to help doesn’t necessarily get to the initial goal. I explain. You may have already heard people saying: “What did sending money really change?” or “We are clearly losing our time helping them…” There is some desperation sometimes, both from people working within organizations (I had the chance to talk to many) and people donating money. Does that mean we shouldn’t donate money anymore? Or maybe we should consider using this money differently. Oxfam in its report: Causing Hunger: An overview of the food crisis in Africa published in July 2006 indicates: “A major investment in tackling the root causes could work and it will cost the world far less – in money and human life – than continuing the cycle of too little, too late that has been the reality of famine relief in Africa for nearly half a century“. The previous year, the Kenyan economics expert James Shikwati even declared to Der Spiegel (read full article) that aid to Africa “does more harm than good” and begged: “For God’s sake, please stop the aid!” This is baffling, isn’t it? And it’s not the first time I read something like that from renowned organizations and experts. So we shouldn’t have any doubt about keeping our good will efforts (People of goodwill against the rest of the world? Maybe…) but maybe we should adjust the way money is used to answer the evolution of a given situation. What was needed three months earlier by the people in need, can be of no use three months later. We have to adapt.

On a more global point of view, investment in the countries facing war, under dictatorship or repressive regimes is a big issue (Burma: Aung San Suu Kyi and a thousand monks. Again.). In 2001, John Jackson, Director of the Burma Campaign UK said: “Premier Oil might be a relatively small company but they are up there in the big league when it comes to brutal business partners […] They are helping to fuel one of the world’s most brutal and oppressive regimes […] Investments like Premier’s pump millions of dollars into a junta that continues to expand its army while its people are pushed further into poverty.” Almost nine years later, the problem is still the same. Foreign companies (French company Total alongside Chevron for the US and many, many others) are being implanted in Burma and we know that doing business in Burma only helps keep the Burmese junta in power, none of this money goes to the Burmese people. Money is obviously the sinew of war and all the good intentions will never be enough to get ride of such shameful businesses such as arms trades; money has no smell and sadly, that is the world we live in. That is what is happening in Burma but also in many other countries having natural resources like Sudan, for example. I remember an article from the Save Darfur Coalition mentioning the Sudan Divestment Task Force with a very interesting interview of executive director Adam Sterling: “The following companies appear on this list and, as of September 2007, maintained contracts with the federal government: Alstom (France), Lahmeyer International (Germany), Mott Macdonald (UK). All companies renewing or pursuing new contracts with the federal government must now certify that they do not support the Sudanese government…” Is that ‘good will’ initiative too naive? Apparently things are changing now with the controversial U.S. Special Envoy General Scott Gration saying: “We must work to mediate and work with all stakeholders—Khartoum, Juba, rebel groups, Chad, civil society, and the international community. It is important to recognize the stated position of the US government on President Al-Bashir“. I guess a peace process can’t really work without a process of working out compromises… What was true three months earlier, can be false three months later. We apparently have to adapt.

Today, every eyes are looking toward the situation in Congo (and Guinea), for a good reason. I recently read an article posted on CNN: humanitarian organizations have been unable to meet the “massive needs” of civilians facing brutal attacks in northeastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. This situation is described by Luis Encinas, coordinator of Medecins Sans Frontieres operations in Central Africa: “The local population is the target of violence: murder, kidnapping and sexual abuse […] We are talking about tactics of violence aimed at instilling fear in the people. Our patients have told us the most brutal stories — about children who are forced to kill their parents and people burnt alive inside their homes.” Horrifying, that is. But once again, actions meant to help can produce a contrary effect. Marcel Stoessel of Oxfam adds: “The human rights and humanitarian consequences of the current military operation are simply disastrous […] U.N. peacekeepers, who have a mandate to protect civilians, urgently need to work with government forces to make sure civilians get the protection they need, or discontinue their support.” Brutal and unexpected. Especially from someone who knows what he is talking about. What was good three months earlier by the people in need, can be bad three months later. We definitely have to adapt.

We currently undergo a crisis in our industrialized societies and we have to deeply change what some experts call the ’speculative capitalism’(although banks and investors were prompt to return to the same speculative behaviour that almost crashed the entire system last year…); I think we also have to think globally when it comes to the help (money, on field aid, support…) we provide to any other countries. I know I may state the obvious but obviously, I don’t see a lot of things changing globally. Maybe only concerning the environmental consciousness issues since climate change having worldwide and widespread effects, but in our everyday living, do we really care about where the gas we put in our car is coming from? Do the deaths and rapes of hundred or thousand of women and children in Darfur, Congo, Guinea or in any other places in the world have changed anything for us? Do you know what is the real price paid for you to have this beautiful engagement ring some women had always dreamt of (Hotel Rwanda, Syriana, Blood Diamond… Not only entertainment)? Unless you work for an organization in the field or actually live in the country, we (as part of the public opinion) at best have no idea of the fear and danger these people are facing everyday, and at worst, we don’t care, safely and securely living in our comfy homes. Feeling guilty and ashamed of everything we do or do not, is not the point here. I think it’s time to take matters into our own hands and go forward. We should stop undergoing everything and we should not be afraid to move on. This is how I believe civil society should work more. Most people I know want a change, a real change in their life because they know every life on this planet is intertwined with another (Will the Sama Water Tank save the world?). Whether we invest our time and/or money in our own country or to help countries abroad, we absolutely have to take into consideration the fact that we must always first know the root causes of every problem to be able to find a long-term solution. It is also important to develop citizen initiatives, civil society and help people to stay free, independent and provide knowledge. Because what we learnt three months earlier, may have changed three months later.

That is evident from the discussions and talkings I have had with people coming from different countries, different spheres and with diverse outlooks on life and politics. We desperately need people of good will capable of doing things most of us are not. It’s time to stop ‘passing the buck’ to some other people or countries waiting for a miracle or for one man only to change the world (Will the World of Obama ever become a reality? and Martin Luther King Jr. and Obama’s election: Free at last?), and take our responsibilities as citizens of the world. Sure we have to acknowledge failure in the efforts that were made to influence Burma’s and Sudan’s military leaders (and Iran, and Korea, and…) to change but maybe it’s because we have got the wrong end of the stick on many subjects for so many years, just because we ‘don’t care’ and let our governments and big companies decide for ourselves. I am not a revolutionary, I just try to see the events with a global approach instead of a biased one. I humbly think a lot more can be done and bettered if we first think about us as human beings living on the same planet instead of our short term, self centered egotistic interest. Of course things are not going to occur overnight and it needs a lot of motivation from everyone to get involved, each one their own way. But it’s not impossible. Two Americans share Nobel prize for economics this year: Oliver Williamson developed a theory in which business firms could serve as structures to resolve conflicts and Elinor Ostrom’s work demonstrated how common property could be managed by groups using it. The work done by CIVICUSis a great example of what is possible to achieve, together. It is an international alliance established in 1993 to nurture the foundation, growth and protection of citizen action throughout the world, especially in areas where participatory democracy and citizens’ freedom of association are threatened. Experienced and highly respected people at The Elders are also doing a lot. The Elders are an independent group of eminent global leaders, brought together by Nelson Mandela, who offer their collective influence and experience to support peace building, help address major causes of human suffering and promote the shared interests of humanity. And so many other smaller and bigger organizations are working in the same direction, with the same level of commitment. That is very impressive.

So is ‘good will’ only enough? I would say no because good will without consciousness will never be enough to deeply change anything. The same way we have (partly) realized we live on the same planet when it comes to environmental issues, we also have to be conscious that what is happening anywhere in the world also has an impact on our daily lives. Not directly, of course, but we have to fight this frustrating feeling we can’t do anything against unethical businesses and harmful behaviours. We have to be committed, one way or another although we also have to listen and adapt. Compromises and forgiveness can also be part of the equation only if we stay firmly resolved to find durable solution and if we remain consistent to our initial approach. Public anger is reaching a boiling point in many countries, and the global ecological and social crisis that is being caused by unbridled globalization has many consequences, on many different levels. I don’t think we are able to set the world to rights only because we want to but again, it’s only by working together we can obtain concrete and tangible results.

I hope we will better organize ourselves and that we will have enough energy to work all together, in spite of our (often supposedly) differences. Some of my ‘well aware’ friends on the subject are already doing all they can do. I often feel so powerless I think it’s important to keep our heads up and stay focused (Will 2009 be better or only ‘less worse’ than 2008?). That is what I wanted to share with you, in these difficult and troubled times. I am more a listener than a talker, and also clearly more a writer than a talker. I guess I was inspired by the subject. And I hope you will also feel concerned. And motivated, as well ^_^

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#1


Sama Reader Moshuo

I read this post on Max Dana’s blog yesterday night but unfortunately we can’t post comment anymore… So it’s great I can send my comment on the Sama Gazette!

Once again, I think Max points out the problem: our disregard toward other people will kill us all. I perfectly understand what she means and what she tries to do but this is a subject nobody wants to talk about because nobody is ready to get involved so much even if in the coming years, we will have no choice but to get involved…

Thank you Max for your optimism and your will to change things :)

Bises
Moshuo

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 9:45 am

#2


Sama Reader PtitJean

You definitely don’t state the obvious and this is so so right……. I always feel powerless :(

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 9:54 am

#3


Sama Reader Lissa

What a great surprise! I was checking Max Dana’s Blog everyday for weeks, waiting for a post like this one!

Each time I read you, you make me think. And it’s not a usual thing since we are now used to get information everyday without taking care of what is happening the next day.

You are so right when you say the governments shouldn’t trade with countries in conflict and companies should be ashamed to work with such countries too. But money is the sinew of war and we have to fight that.

We also shouldn’t consider Darfur like a done thing, people are still dying everyday and I hope the pressure on Khartoum will get even more important.

I wish this post was read by so many people they will change their way to see our world. Thank you Max, what you say is really motivating :)

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 10:14 am

#4


Sama Reader Oleg

We really should be humble when we see all the work people do to help other people.

Good will is maybe not enough but it is so important!!

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 10:19 am

#5


Sama Reader Wanka

I don’t know Max Dana for a long time but I’m starting to really like her a lot. She’s wise and she seems to know what she’s talking about. I’m impressed by this artist. Truly.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 11:38 am

#6


Sama Reader Simcha

I agree with Max’s statement wholeheartedly. We MUST change the way we treat people. Also the way we help them. And the organizations should make a better use of the money. But how can we do that???

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 11:43 am

#7


Sama Reader Muzzi

So true.

Who cares about what’s happening in Congo right now?

Nobody…

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 11:51 am

#8


Sama Reader ErickNO

ErickNO

It’s a pleasure to read you -again- Max! I missed your posts about these topics. I agree what the others said about the change we need. Deeply and in every part of the world. This change will only happen if I do something, if you do something, if we do something. Only together we will be able to change conservatives minds. I can’t agree more on that..

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 12:04 pm

#9


Sama Reader Hulksman

I have nothing more to add…….. I suddenly feel stupid :roll:

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 1:27 pm

#10


Sama Reader Meddi

If only we could work together this could be a better world.

Max you should be a spokesperson for the civil society, what you say can be hard sometimes but it really motivates me to do something.

My mom will be proud :)

-Meddi

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 1:32 pm

#11


Sama Reader Juliette

The world we live in is so unfair……. Some people are not born with the same chance that everyone else has and that’s a fact. The worst is that we always find something to complain about and it justifies the fact we are selfish and only worry about our own problems. But Max is right about the fact our lives are intertwined. It is time we realized that. And quickly!! :oops:

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 2:19 pm

#12


Sama Reader Lissa

Muzzi, that’s wrong we care but only when the problems are getting close to us. Unless, we care less. The important in this post is the power each one has to make a change. That’s why I think we shouldn’t count on America, on France or on another country to take the lead in solving global poverty, wars and so on. Only us can do something.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 2:45 pm

#13


Sama Reader N’Gaye

For the african man I am, when you talk about civil society for me it is about sharing and helping the people around me. It is what lacks in developed countries where everyone lives his own life. So this word civil society is the key to the success and I’m glad Max Dana mentioned it so often in her article.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 2:50 pm

#14


Sama Reader JohnnieW

Well said.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 2:53 pm

#15


Sama Reader Dittta

This is very well said and I would like so much being part of the process but it is hard to ask people working all day long to think to a world they don’t see from their window. I too agree something must be done but it won’t happen anytime soon :(

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 3:16 pm

#16


Sama Reader Moshuo

N’Gaye that’s exactly what I think too. We have a lot to learn from Africa that’s why we should exchange our knowledge with the countries who need help. It’s an exchange nothing else, it’s not due. I remember Max mentioned something like that in one of her post on her blog, about Africa not being a country but a continent and that each country could exchange with another country without second thought. That was a great article, very profund and I also remember it really made my rethink about the way I used to see Africa.

Bises
Moshuo

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 3:26 pm

#17


Sama Reader CaptainMoore

What do you think of Obama setting new policy to push Sudan toward peace:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-19-obama-sudan_N.htm

President Obama issued a statement saying the U.S. and international community must act “with a sense of urgency and purpose” to seek an end to conflict, human rights abuses and genocide in Sudan’s Darfur region. While promising a diplomatic push, he also said he would renew existing sanctions on Sudan this week.

It’s clearly a compromise to do legitimate doing business with Khartoum…… It’s a shame!!!

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm

#18


Sama Reader Arnold

Once again, I can’t agree more with Max and I also think she should create her own foundation. It’s unbelievable we can’t mobilized ourselves more for important causes. I was at the Hotel de Ville in Paris to support Aung San Suu Kyi and it was not crowded. My main problem is that we think only America can save us all. Obama is the only one to be able to save us. Max said it perfectly in her post: we don’t have to wait for a miracle. Of course we need Obama and all the other presidents to go forward but we most of all need us, the citizens. N’Gaye gave a great example with the African way of life by helping each other.

United States is not the white knight saving us all. I love America but we should boycott companies working with the Junta and working with children. That would be a first step because if you touch their money then big companies will have to change their behaviour.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 5:32 pm

#19


Sama Reader Amoniddah

Amoniddah

hi everyone! i don’t know if you remember me but i work in cote d’ivoire for an organization it is my country and i am proud to be an african. i contacted max from her blog and she answered me with kind words. she knows africa very well and i hope we will work together some day. i would be honored to!

n’gaye is right about the way we live here in africa, we are all part of a big family even if we are not from the same family. it is different in france because i have been there several times. so working together is maybe the solution but i know people are afraid of africa and afraid of black people too…. there is a lot of work to do in the world to change minds.

i help children everyday so i do my best to contribute to what you define like the civil society and to make things better. what max says is very supporting for the persons like me working for very small organizations with no money. i feel like someone recognize the work i do so thank you very much max dana, i know you do a lot personally behind the scene, thank you.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 5:49 pm

#20


Sama Reader Mark

Wonderful sentiments :twisted:

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 6:07 pm

#21


Sama Reader Ghosty

Associational life is a key component for democracy. It’s also part of civil society.

As for Obama policy concerning Sudan, the hard work is only beginning…

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 6:11 pm

#22


Sama Reader BettyKohn

Excellent post from Max indeed.

Mark, don’t be so rude….

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 6:24 pm

#23


Sama Reader Fonzy

I’m not into politics but actually, I can’t envision a better future for the world… I like Max optimism but I’m not. Like she said, public anger is reaching a boiling point in many countries and it won’t stop because we want to. It will stop when all the countries will decide together it’s time for a change. Which will never gonna happen. IMHO.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 6:28 pm

#24


Sama Reader Meddi

Arnold – Max should create her own foundation, totally agree with that!!!

-Meddi

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 6:53 pm

#25


Sama Reader Pilar

¡Hola!

I don’t know if the U.S. policy to Sudan will help. The U.S will not save the world because they already have many problems inside their own borders. Each contry should work independantly but join forces on certain cases. Or we will face even stronger problems soon…

Fonzy and Mark, why being so pessimistic? We have the power to change everything in this world, we just have to want to ;)

¡Adios!

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:12 pm

#26


Sama Reader Mark

I wish I could share your optimism on this Pilar but I’m not. But I agree on one point: how do you want Americans to save the world when so many of our own citizens suffer from extreme poverty?? We have no money and no time to deal with foreign issues, sorry….

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 7:47 pm

#27


Sama Reader Karmitto

I will move to Patagonia for a change ;)

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 8:31 pm

#28


Sama Reader Arnold

Meddi: let’s be the first to join the Max Dana Foundation :P

Mark: we don’t ask Americans to solve all the problems, but we want citizens from every country to take matters into our own hands and go forward!!

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 9:08 pm

#29


Sama Reader Frank_Pin

Frank_Pin

Lol Karmitto

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 9:14 pm

#30


Sama Reader Ponditi

President Omar El Bashir of Sudan has been indicted by Luis Moreno-Ocampo, the chief prosecutor for the ICC and now the U.S wants to trade with him? Has the world gone crazy or what???

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 11:59 pm

#31


Sama Reader N’Gaye

Amoniddah I’m always happy to read your comments :) You are right about the work people do on the field for small organizations, this work is very important. I will send you an email later about a project I have for Congo, I will submit it to Max Dana too :)

To Arnold. I would be happy so sign in but as of now it’s a virtual foundation ;)

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 2:45 am

#32


Sama Reader Yull

The Max Dana Foundation: +1

:P

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 6:30 am

#33


Sama Reader nathan_zivi

nathan_zivi

I didn’t know Max Dana was so committed…….. I discovered the World of Sama a few months ago. Max Dana is a great artist, I truly mean it…….

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 10:13 am

#34


Sama Reader Akvani

Gration, a retired Air Force major general, has been at odds with Rice by arguing in public for a less strict line toward President Omar al-Bashir, whom Gration sees as the key to resolving the situation in Darfur.

I still don’t get why the U.S are doing this.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 10:52 am

#35


Sama Reader Simcha

@Ponditi: It’s not about business, read the article by John Prendergast:

The ideals spelled out in the Obama administration’s new paper on U.S. policy to Sudan are worthy of considerable support. The policy review represents a great deal of work inside the administration to learn lessons from past policy, to correct missteps of the administration over the past seven months, and to find a balanced approach that integrates peace, protection and accountability.

Recent public statements by administration officials have created justifiable concerns among members of Congress, activists, and a range of experts that the policy might rely on providing incentives as the primary means for encouraging behavioral change on the ground in Sudan. Instead, the policy as articulated today demands accountability and verifiable progress on a wide range of issues before incentives would be deployed – although these benchmarks are not spelled out in detail.

More here: http://www.enoughproject.org/publications/fierce-urgency-implementation

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 11:28 am

#36


Sama Reader Juliette

Thanks for the link Simcha but it’s a BIG compromise. I know ‘a peace process can’t really work without a process of working out compromises…’ (quoting Max) but I don’t know where we are going with that :roll:

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 1:09 pm

#37


Sama Reader Lissa

Small organizations do a wonderful work indeed.

To N’Gaye – Thank you for the Children Mending Hearts link, they are doing a fantastic work and the people I talked to (by e-mail) are wonderful. I know you care about your conutry and these people give children some good times with the workshops. Maybe Children Mending Hearts will not change their fate but they will at least change their day and it’s already a lot. Good luck for your project N’Gaye! :)

To Amoniddah – I would like to help you if I can. N’Gaye has my e-mail so if I can be of any help, don’t hesitate to contact me!

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 2:15 pm

#38


Sama Reader Mark

Pilar, sweetie, even Juliette agrees with me….. ;)

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 2:21 pm

#39


Sama Reader Pilar

¡Hola!

Jajaja Mark. It’s not because the American policy is maybe wrong that we can’t do anything by ourselves…

¡Adios!

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 2:47 pm

#40


Sama Reader Dittta

Karmitto, would you mind if I come with you to Patagonia? ;)

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 4:02 pm

#41


Sama Reader Thomas

Hotel Rwanda is a movie everyone should see. And also The Constant Gardener, and The Lord of War, Syriana and Blood Diamond, ans The Last King of Scotland. All these movies tell something and as a movie journalist I am very proud of the movies industry when I see movies like these ones. And I’m even more proud when someone like Max Dana promote them.

As for Sudan and Congo, what is currently done is like ‘coups d’épées dans l’eau’. We lost our time and or money on many points and it’s very bad because it will end with people stop donating money and the people of good will described in the article, to lose their faith. I hope we will find a worldwide solution to radically change the situation.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 6:13 pm

#42


Sama Reader eGlobeR

eGlobeR

Just checked CIVICUS, interesting.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 6:30 pm

#43


Sama Reader Simcha

I will leave a message on the Enough website and I hope I will get some answer because it’s quite disturbing :oops:

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm

#44


Sama Reader Juliette

I must say I don’t understand what they want to do in Sudan. I couldn’t access Enough site for an hour (503 error) to read their last posts. So Simcha, if you get a clear answer, let us know!

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 8:12 pm

#45


Sama Reader PtitJean

Stupid question maybe but why is it the first time I hear about civil society? I’m serious, this citizen action stuff is new to me and it should be supported and developed in every single country in the world.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 9:54 pm

#46


Sama Reader Mark

Simcha don’t bother leave a comment at Enough you’ll never gonna get a reply anyway……. ;)

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 2:09 am

#47


Sama Reader Arnold

I think Max Dana is planning something huge. I mean, she has the power to make people change, she’s working hard to help other people and I remember her initiative last year. She might not be the most famous artist in the world yet (but I know she doesn’t want to be exposed……) but she knows how to catch attention and how to find the right word to motivate, even us.

She should seriously think about founding an organization!

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 9:43 am

#48


Sama Reader Pilar

¡Hola!

I read your comment on Enough Project site but no reply yet. Do you really think they care? They must be very busy and I wonder if they even read the comments :roll:

¡Adios!

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:16 am

#49


Sama Reader Yull

The Max Dana Foundation: +2

:P

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:38 am

#50


Sama Reader ErickNO

ErickNO

There are very humble and very committed people here. I would like to tell Amoniddah what she does is amazing, it demands a lot of courage and motivation. I am a doctor and I volunteered several times to work with organizations in Tchad and I saw things I will never forget….

I also had great moments helping people. But what Max said in her post is so true, I often felt some desperation about the situation because we clearly knew we should work differently to be more effective but we couldn’t, for many reasons.

It’s time to work things out and change our way to see volunteer work, to make it evolve. If Max Dana decides to create a foundation, I’ll be there with all the follow friends, doctors and volunteers as well. I hope this foundation will see the light.

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 2:01 pm

#51


Sama Reader Moshuo

Count me in too! I’d be happy to help :P

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 3:27 pm

#52


Sama Reader Lissa

If Max Dana launches a foundation it would be a great idea but Gino is right, we can’t presume what she’s going to do. We are all interested by this foundation but it’s a lot of work. But I too hope it will see the light because I agree she knows how to touch everyone of us. I am not naive either, there are already many organizations and foundations but maybe the unique personality and commitment of Max can bring something different.

We will see!

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 4:48 pm

#53


Sama Reader Gino

Max looks very busy with her work as an artist I don’t know if she has a lot of time left for running a foundation :oops:

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 4:50 pm

#54


Sama Reader Simcha

No reply on my comment on Enough Project :(

Maybe Mark is right, maybe they don’t care…….

Maybe if the Sama Gazette send them an email they will reply ;)

I think the Max Dana Foundation would be a fantastic idea too.

It already has the support of many people involved in organizations and civil society. Maybe it is going to happen, only Max knows!

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 6:12 pm

#55


Sama Reader Wanka

Agreed!

Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 6:27 pm



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