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Polanski: forgiven in France, guilty in the U.S?

By Sama Team on September 29th, 2009, 2:38 pm • In: Films | The Bistro

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Roman Polanski: forgiven in France, still guilty in the U.S?

 

Since he was arrested last Saturday in Switzerland while on his way to Zurich Film Festival, which is holding a tribute to him, the least we can say is that regarding the ‘Roman Polanski case’, public opinion is divided, even among the Sama Team. The legal fate of director Roman Polanski shows there are still major cultural differences between Europe and the U.S…

 

The facts are these (from CNN):

 

The director pleaded guilty in 1977 to a single count of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, acknowledging he had sex with a 13-year-old girl, but fled the U.S. before he could be sentenced [...] Now married and known as Samantha Geimer, she filed court papers in January saying, “I am no longer a 13-year-old child. I have dealt with the difficulties of being a victim, have surmounted and surpassed them with one exception [...] Geimer, now 45, and a mother of three, sued Polanski and received an undisclosed settlement. She long ago came forward and made her identity public — mainly, she said, because she was disturbed by how the criminal case had been handled

 

Some people (let’s say Government officials, movie industry personalities and small amount of French public opinion) have a clear opinion about Roman Polanski’s situation, and some have even spoken publicly about it, like Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, Justice Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie and French Culture Minister Frédéric Mitterrand, quoting:

 

To see him thrown to the lions and put in prison because of ancient history. And he was traveling to an event honoring him, it is absolutely horrifying [...] There’s an America we love and an America that scares us, and it’s that latter America that has just shown us its face.”

 

In France, Roman Polanski is regarded as one of the finest directors of his generation, critically acclaimed for his films such as “Rosemary’s Baby“, ”Tess” and “The Pianist“. He is married to French actress Emmanuelle Seigner and they have two children. Many people think it’s a thirty-years old case, and even say it’s ‘acharnement judiciaire’ (judicial harassment) since Polanski acknowledged he had sex with a 13-year-old girl, and since Geimer herself (the victim) wants to move on. Justice Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie is even wondering why the U.S. is still seeking his extradition…

 

But some others think Roman Polanski should be brought to justice since he fled the U.S. before he could be sentenced. Arguing all men, regardless of talent, are equal before the law and that he is finally getting what he deserves after running away and hiding for so many years.

 

No wonder why these two points of view regarding Roman Polanski’s situation are being the subject of controversy. We exposed the two sides, as it is also how we see the situation here at the Sama Team. One common question though: what will happen next?

 

Let us know what is your opinion on that.

 

Photo credit:

‘Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired’


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 Comment author: JBKaval
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
1

He’s guilty, he has to be brought to justice like anybody else. Polanski or not, same law for everyone. And a rape is not ‘acceptable’ even with time………



 Comment author: Yull
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
2

He’s a rapist……… :(



 Comment author: Mark
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
3

It’s an old story, the victim has forgiven him. Who cares now?!?



 Comment author: J.T Brown
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
4

He’s talented. It’s not an excuse for what he did but if the victim agrees not to charge him anymore, why bringing him to justice?

We’ll see…



Camalia Comment author: Camalia
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
5

He might be talented, but he’s still a rapist!



 Comment author: Nouni
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
6

Hollywood gave Polanski a standing ovation when he won the Oscar for The Pianist. This is pure hypocrisy now, I really don’t get it :roll:



 Comment author: Simcha
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
7

Why is the judge so stubborn????

I thought Switzerland was a neutral country, you know, they keep your money but never give names. They sold Polanski to the U.S but the banks kept the money of the Nazi at one time…..:(



 Comment author: Muzzi
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
8

I found that article on the Internet. If it is true it may change a lot of things:

The girl who was raped by Polanski has forgiven him recently on the Larry King show and has said he should not be punished. She also said even though she was 13 she was not a virgin at the time. Presently, she is happly married with two children.

Justice or not?



Sam Glicky Comment author: Sam Glicky
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
9

I’m sorry but I don’t give a f-ck to what’s happening to Roman Polanski :oops:



 Comment author: J.T. Brown
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
10

Thx Muzzi, that’s exactly what I don’t understand about this trial taking place…



 Comment author: CaptainMoore
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
11

Who’s Roman Polanski anyway? He lives in France now, who cares, really???



 Comment author: Juliette
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
12

Well well well… I am puzzled. How can french politics say that without knowing anything of the case? I am French and I don’t understand at all why people from the government and so many artists support Polanski. Sure he’s talented but not showing at his trial was a big mistake. The biggest he ever made. He should have been confronted to his victim and to the justice. Now he’s 76, it’s late but it’s never too late. The big problem for me being that french representatives openly support him but french public opinion doesn’t…….. Once again, bad image for France, like if the elite had every rights to be above the law.

Shame.



 Comment author: Gulove
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
13

Weird situation indeed…..



 Comment author: N’Gaye
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
14

French are not stupid, they agree with the arrest.



Nancy Comment author: Nancy
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
15

Don’t make up such non-sense. I am an american and I live in Paris. I’ve read all the french forums related to this subject. All the comments coming from the french is that Polanski should go back to the U.S. and that JUSTICE IS FOR ALL.

So stop sensationalizing this support from a few politicians and artists. They do not represent THE FRENCH.



sam Comment author: sam
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
16

Why shouldn’t other rapists and paedophiles be forgiven as well? Because they didn’t run away and they’re not famous, so nobody cares?



 Comment author: Mark
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
17

The world knows French are perverts, that’s why Polanski stayed there for so long :twisted:



 Comment author: Muzzi
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 1:35 am
18

Another quote about forgiving Polanski from director Brett Ratner:

“The family has forgiven [Polanski]. The victim has forgiven him. The rest of the world has forgiven him. The LA judicial system is corrupt. It’s horrible.”

Also forgiven in the U.S……



 Comment author: Arnold
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 8:20 am
19

It’s a very complicated case. :roll:

But I don’t know why so many people feel concerned about Roman Polanski’s fate. He is a great director and he will be judge. I agree with the ones who ask ‘who cares’….



Fonzy Comment author: Fonzy
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 10:41 am
20

Team Polanski: 12

Team Guilty: 45

:P



 Comment author: Moshuo
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
21

Nancy, I totally agree with you. It’s interesting to know your opinion about Polanski because you’re an American living in France. And the question asked by the Sama Team is very accurate because we have the feeling that Roman Polanski has been forgiven in France but he’s still considered as guilty in the U.S. That’s the general feeling but that’s not how things really are in the public opinion. It’s obviously a non-sense to say the contrary, I agree.

PS: I hope you like our beautiful country ;)



 Comment author: Toby Miller
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
22

Kouchner’s argument to support Polanski is stunning, he said ‘This is not nice at all’. A rape is not nice at all, that’s an evidence. Being arrested for raping someone is a good thing, why comparing!!

Toby.



 Comment author: PtitJean
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
23

Nice discussion!

My humble opinion is that the people who ruined our economies are not guilty of anything but they killed many people (suicides, bankruptcy…) but Polanski is guilty of everything. It’s disproportionate. What Polanski did is awful but the book is closed now. He’s almost 80…



 Comment author: N’Gaye
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
24

Yesturday I said: French are not stupid, they agree with the arrest.

I must add: But people talking for the French don’t do you good publicity ;)



 Comment author: J.T. Brown
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
25

I am Team Polanski — Because of Rosemary’s Baby. Don’t ask.



 Comment author: Thomas
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
26

I’m working as a journalist (movies) and as many of you, I am very surprised by the support given to Roman Polanski. Maybe you already know but a petition has launched titled: “We demand the immediate release of Roman Polanski”. It was coordinated from France by the SACD, an organisation which represents performance and visual artists. The organisation added:

“Film-makers in France, in Europe, in the United States and around the world are dismayed by this decision … the arrest came as “astonishing news … It seems inadmissible to them that an international cultural event, paying homage to one of the greatest contemporary film-makers, is used by police to apprehend him.”

I mean I also think judging Polanski now is of no use anymore because the victim doesn’t want a trial anymore but I would never impede justice and openly support someone who aknowledged he raped a girl and has not been judged yet. I’m being neutral here because everything is not black or white. But I think this support coming from french officials and artists is not justified at all until the trial takes place.



Wanka Comment author: Wanka
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
27

What do you want to do? It’s over, everyone got a new life with family and children, leave him alone once and for all



 Comment author: Pilar
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
28

¡Hola!

I am a big fan of Roman Polanski and I am very sad about what is happening to him :(

It is not fair because the victim is enough with that, Polanski too……. I agree what he did was very wrong but time has passed, it’s too late now.

I am Team Polanski :oops:

¡Adios!



 Comment author: Nouni
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
29

Hi Pilar, you know I appreciate you a lot, you’re a regular here, so am I. But I can’t understand how you can support R. Polanski!!??

You say it’s too late but it’s never too late to judge someone for what he did. It’s called justice. Your age has no importance, you have to be judged.

I hope you understand my point of view.



 Comment author: Juliette
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
30

N’Gaye, that’s exactly the problem. French politics should not be allowed to talk before the result of a trial. But they do in the name of all the French people.

Thomas, Luc Besson didn’t sign the petition, he wants to stay impartial about the situation and that’s very clever of him.



 Comment author: Laurent
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
31

sam you’re right.

Fame and money can corrupt justice.

We’ll see what will happen for this specific trial.

Wait & see!



Camalia Comment author: Camalia
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
32

You never forget a rape. And justice is for all. Everything has been said already.



 Comment author: Pilar
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
33

¡Hola Nouni!

We see things differently, that’s all ;)

I understand your point of view but it’s not mine.

¡Adios!



 Comment author: JBKaval
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
34

Time doesn’t exonerate you from what you did. It’s true time has passed and that the girl who has been raped doesn’t want to pursue Polanski anymore and that should be taken into consideration. But a trial has to take place, even if he goes free, he has to be judged for what he did like anybody else.



 Comment author: Toby Miller
Posted on September 30th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
35

Very well said Thomas.

Toby.



Fonzy Comment author: Fonzy
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 2:04 am
36

Team Polanski: 19

Team Guilty: 49

:P



 Comment author: Gulove
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 6:12 am
37

Wait & See



 Comment author: Juliette
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 9:29 am
38

Kohn-Bendit doesn’t support Polanski either. Add his name to the very small list of responsable people in the show business :roll:



eGlobeR Comment author: eGlobeR
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
39

Fonzy LOL

Which team will win in the end? I bet Polanski because he’s famous!



 Comment author: Thomas
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
40

Juliette I agree, I’m stunned by the fact so few people from show business say they don’t support Polanski…… Like they’re afraid. So they prefer not say anything, that’s why the pro-Polanski seem to be so many but they’re not.

Like eGlober said, wait and see……..

















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